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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 3:09 pm 
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I picked up a Saginaw SG a few weeks back, but this time I did something a little different. I'd been looking at the carbines DGR lists for some time, and was curious as to how one with a new commercial barrel would shoot. I was also very curious about the Wenig WWII profile stocks Dean is selling.

So I scratched an itch and bought a Saginaw SG he had listed, one with a new commercial barrel and a new WWII profile Wenig stock set.

Pics of the carbine and stock as I received it from DGR:
http://www.firemission.com/m1_carbine/s ... /dgr_1.jpg
http://www.firemission.com/m1_carbine/s ... /dgr_3.jpg

It is pretty, that's for sure. I know most here will think that I'm a bit nuts for dropping that kind of cash on what is basically a rebuilt shooter with no collector value. That is certainly one way to look at it, but it is a good shooter & I'll have a lot of fun with it at the range. They can't all be collectors...

There were two problems with the carbine when I received it. The bolt was a commercial part, and it had been advertised as GI. Also, the nutplate on the barrel band was stripped and the screw was secured with an external nut. I wasn't very happy with either of these issues, but Dean took care of them immediately by sending a nice Winchester type 2 bolt and a replacement barrel band the next day. I am very satisfied with the way he stood by his product.

As I said, I was curious about the Wenig stocks. I like the one I received with the carbine; it fits the action very well, and the wood itself is absolutely beautiful. It's a fine stock and is far superior to the Boyd's stock I tried a year or so back. That said, and while I'm glad I scratched this particular itch, I find that I much prefer nice GI wood on a carbine. I picked up a very nice IO marked Inland type 3 yesterday and have retired the Wenig stock in favor of the Inland stock. If I ever find a reasonably priced SG stock I'll probably replace the Inland stock. Until then, it stays where it is.

Also, I replaced the mixed parts Inland trigger group that came with the carbine with a complete & original Inland type 3. I had a couple in the parts bin and I like push safeties, so there you go. The finish matches the rest of the carbine perfectly.

Parts:
Receiver: Saginaw SG, S/N 3,280,066
Barrel: New commercial, type 2. Head space is perfect.
Front Sight: QHMC & NPM, marked Z. This is the 1st one of these that I've seen.
Barrel Band: C marked type 3.
Slide: IBM, marked AOB. Type 3.
Bolt: Winchester, type 2.
Rear Sight: I.R. Co. type 3 adjustable.
Recoil Lug: DI marked type 3.
Trigger housing: Inland, type 3.
Hammer: Inland, type 3.
Sear: Inland, type 2.
Trigger: Inland, type 2.
Safety: Inland, type 3.
Magazine Catch: Inland type 3, marked W.I.
Stock: Inland type 3 with a nice acceptance stamp and IO mark in the sling well. IO marked type 3 hand guard.

I took more pictures of the stock than I did the carbine I think. It's one of the nicest GI carbine stocks I've ever seen. I've been fortunate enough to have found some really nice GI wood over the past several years, and this stock is one of the nicest I've seen. There are the usual handling and storage dings, but it hasn't been sanded much (if at all), there are no cracks or chips, and the wood is just beautiful. Nice grain pattern and that perfect red/brown color that everyone wants to see.

It is a complete and utter mix-master shooter carbine, but it is accurate, has no mechanical problems and looks darned nice to boot. I'm happy with it. :)

Thanks for looking!

Click the pic for more images of the carbine...
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Hey ! Doesn't that belong to Jack Stanley ?


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No .... but it probably ought to ! I haven't even found the itch for a carbine yet , let alone scratch it .

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eh, I think Jack is immune. ;)

On the other hand, one of my local buddies just told me that he has been dreaming about carbines. That can't be a good sign, even I don't have it that bad. :?: :D

In truth, I've had a hard time liking this carbine. Maybe a touch of buyer's remorse, which is a first for me. After I put it in this Inland stock I really started to like it though as I'm a firm believer in "the stock makes the carbine".

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I know most here will think that I'm a bit nuts for dropping that kind of cash on what is basically a rebuilt shooter with no collector value. That is certainly one way to look at it, but it is a good shooter & I'll have a lot of fun with it at the range. They can't all be collectors...



I cannot agree more with you. I basically did the same with the M1 Garand that I sent off to Dean's and had him bring back from the dead, basically becoming the offical 2nd Jack Stanley special. I think that for all of the $$ I spent on it, that it was worth it. This is a Carbine that Quagmire help build. This is part of 'you'. It may not be worth above what a collector would sell for, but yours has sentimental value, that in my opinion is priceless.

Not to change the tune here- I have a NPM that's in very good shape. I could count the times on my hands that I have brought it to the range. My mentality was why should I spend $160-$170 on a 1000 rounds of .30 carbine when I can shoot the SkS for $75- $90 per 1000. After seeing all of the surplus disappear recently, and seeing SkS ammo go up to $150 per 1000, I am starting to think what the hell. Why not? Let's pop some $$$ on some .30 carbine ammo and go to the races with it.


Very nice Carbine Quagmire--

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